(((ITHINKISEE & FREEDOMLOVERR)))
That's a whole lot of crap to take in one conversation. How do you both feel after this? And how are the kids doing?
I'm going to archive this conversation. It shows all the typical jw rhetoric and brainwashing. How anyone could read that and not think your poor sister was in a cult is beyond me.
Thinking of you,
tall penguin
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ITHINKISEE Update: My fleshly JW sister says I am Satanic and dangerous
by ithinkisee ini went to my dad's house for christmas.
it was the first christmas we celebrated together since i was 5 years old.
it was my kid's and [freedomloverr's] very first christmas ever.. .
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tall penguin
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I'm not Responsible!
by zack ini didn't create the world.
i didn't screw up humanity.
i haven't been the cause of wars ot injustice or sickness or death or suffering.. i have over 6000 years of sin in my dna.
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tall penguin
Oh Outlaw. Sure, it's always the penguins fault isn't it?! LOL
Zack, I hear ya! I struggle daily with the concepts of personal responsibility, free will and choice. Not sure where I stand at this point. I just know how frustrating it can be. As jw's we were made to feel we were responsible for everyone...the whole bloodguilt thang. It's crazy-making. Now, I have a hard time knowing what I am or am not responsible for.
I think the best I can do each day is to make the best choices I can with the information I have at the time.
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I Am An Atheist
by Abandoned inwow!
i am currently enjoying richard dawkins the god delusion.
i was reading chapter one and going, "yeah, yeah!
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tall penguin
"I think atheist is most accurately defined as one who has no belief in a god, as opposed to the idea of believing there is not a god."
Thank you for this seeker4. I've been wanting a more accurate definition for atheist.
And congrats abandoned. I just read "The God Delusion" as well and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm now reading "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris. Great read. Damn those sexy atheists. Richard Dawkins is hot! :)
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What will they do when the blood ban has no meaning ?
by A Paduan inpeople will invent ways of making blood, eventually, no doubt.
they will probably have synthetic substitutes for the short term and be able to grow or clone it off our own dna or something before too long.
so what will the org do for martyrs and publicity then ?
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tall penguin
Mourn their dead.
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GPS coordinates for God needed...please help
by onacruse inkate santa .
also, the co called me last month, inquiring about my "spiritual status," including my prayer life.. i told him: "bob, i've prayed to jehovah at least 200,000 times in my life, and he has never once verbally acknowledged my efforts to communicate with him.
even my own human father hasn't been so incommunicative.
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tall penguin
Hey onacruse!
Nice to see you back around again!
"I've been working on a project that will be my "legacy" to the exJW world...approx 25,000 pages of proof-reading involved (yeah, you read that number right )"
I've got some spare time. Need an editor? :)
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Belief Poll : Please Indulge Me
by Morocco injust sort of curious about this, i know it has probably been done a gazillion times but let me do it again.
1.do you believe in a personal god who takes interest in you as an individual?
2.do you believe that the bible was written by god?
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tall penguin
Thanks for the laugh jayhawk. That was hilarious.
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'Fess up--which one of you sent me this for Christmas?
by rebel8 inhttp://www.knitty.com/issuewinter04/pattwomb.html.
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tall penguin
OMG! That's awesome. I'm so jealous. Can someone knit me a uterus?
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Homeopathy popular in Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by Tigerman inis homeopathy ( the treatment of a disease using, in small doses, drugs that produce symtoms like those of the disease so that one's natural immune system can fight off the disease ) popular among active jw's ?
my son who was raised as a jw has a large ( adult male palm size ) fatty growth on his back.
his jw mother is treating him with homeopathy, as is a so called doctor.
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tall penguin
"First - the question. Is Homeopathy the practice of putting such a minute dilution of some certain agent into a water solution that most chemists say there probably is not even one molucule left of the stuff? If this is the one I am thinking of, the Homeopathy enthusiasts say that even if not one molecule was there, the water sort of took on the "imprint" of the medicinal and it was kind of there by proxy...(and was that why somebody mentioned Avogadro?) If that is the case, then the whole enterprise sounds pretty tenuous to me."
Yes, james woods, you are correct. That's the basic idea of homeopathy.
"However, along those lines - with as much paranoia on smurf dolls, the oija board, etc...wonder why this kind of thing has not been singled out as a questionable and possibly demonic practice?"
Alternative medicine has actually been singled out in the wt and also at various conventions. I'm sure Blondie could find some references for us. I remember specifically an article on muscle testing. I do recall the last DC I went to that there was growing concern about the jw use of alternative medicine and that jw's should be sure that these alternative practices did not conflict with bible principles. And insinuated that many of the practices could be interpreted as demonic. So yes, the wts is on it. Even so, many jw's still seek out alt med. They just don't tell others about it. That's what I did when I was into it.
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Homeopathy popular in Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by Tigerman inis homeopathy ( the treatment of a disease using, in small doses, drugs that produce symtoms like those of the disease so that one's natural immune system can fight off the disease ) popular among active jw's ?
my son who was raised as a jw has a large ( adult male palm size ) fatty growth on his back.
his jw mother is treating him with homeopathy, as is a so called doctor.
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tall penguin
Addressing the original question of whether homeopathy is popular among jw's, it would appear to differ by region. Where I grew up there as an elder that practiced iridology, reflexology and treated with homeopathy and herbs. I saw him for a number of years, wasted a lot of money and am convinced that he is a quack.
I also saw a naturopathic dr, not a jw, who had an inordinately high number of jw patients. I also saw a chiropractor, again not a jw, but also with a high number of jw patients. From what I saw, a lot of jw's looked into alternative medicine, often without seeing a regular dr. Whether this is just reflective of what you'd see in the regular population, I'm not sure.
One theory I have is that to see a mainstream dr leaves one open to the possibility of being diagnosed as having an emotional/mental condition, which might then lead a dr to suggest psychotherapy. I wonder if a lot of the jw's, especially those with conditions with a high emotional/mental component (stress and cognitive dissonance), would steer clear of the mainstream doc for fear of that possibility. No jw wants to deal with the possibility of seeing a psych who might tell them that a lot of their physical problems stem from the stress of being in a cult.
Seeking out alternative practitioners who aren't qualified to diagnose conditions or run psychological assessments or other medical tests but only treat based on symptoms may feel "safer" to the average jw. Just a theory.
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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
by zagor instudy detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.
it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.
it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.
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tall penguin
Hey Satanus,
Would you be able to provide some links about Aids immunity in Africa. I find this fascinating.
Thanks,
tall penguin